Pope, Pope, Pope (TTH ep. 217) Transcript

00:00 - Deacon Bob (Host)

This week on they that Hope. How do you spell Eclair, sismant, the spelling bee, golf and other exciting sports stories.

00:07 - Father Dave (Host)

We talk about St Augustine, pentecost and Jack Nicholson.

00:10 - Deacon Bob (Host)

And the Pope Pope, pope, pope, pope, pope. You can catch this episode and many more at theythathopepodcastcom. Welcome to they that Hope, with Father Dave and Deacon Bob Seeing humor and hope in a crazy chilly world and if there's no hope in your hearts.

00:43 - Father Dave (Host)

People, although if you're watching online, you can watch. Bob got me a Father's Day gift. I did an early Father's Day gift. I did An early Father's Day gift and it's a picture of what's his name Darth Vader. No, it's not Darth Vader.

00:53 - Deacon Bob (Host)

I don't remember the actor's name James Earl Jones, james Earl Jones and it's from People of the Corn. A Few Good Men? No, it's not A Few Good Men.

01:04 - Father Dave (Host)

Field of dreams, field of dreams. And it says people will come Ray. And it says the one constant through all the years Ray has been baseball, this field, this game, it's a part of our past, ray. It reminds us of all that once was good and it could be again. Thank you so much. It's my favorite shirt ever. I told him I'm not sure I'm going to wear it, I'm just hanging it on my wall.

01:23 - Deacon Bob (Host)

Yeah, it's a beautiful shirt. Well, this shirt was brought to you by Field of Dreams and this podcast was brought to you by-.

01:29 - Father Dave (Host)

Did you go to Field of Dreams?

01:30 - Deacon Bob (Host)

I'd never go to Field of Dreams FranciscanUniversityOSVPodcastcom.

01:35 - Father Dave (Host)

This episode is brought to you by Field of Dreams.

01:37 - Deacon Bob (Host)

Oh, that's right If they will listen If we say Pope, if we say Pope, they will listen. We found an interesting stat thanks to Pat Grace. Looking at our stats, If our podcast has the name Pope in it, we get a 5% bump in our listeners, which means this show is called Pope in the Field of Dreams. We go from 20 listeners to 21, I think something like that.

02:02

So I think we're going to rename our podcast they that Pope, they that Pope. I like that, and nobody will notice the difference. I'm buying, you know, I don't know how you are at your own families and things like that when you purchase things for each other. You probably don't have this issue with the friars, but sometimes, like somebody says, what do you want for Mother's Day and Jenny's? You know, I'll send you a link. That's kind of the thing we do these days. Like, you know, what do you want, I'll send you a link.

02:27 - Father Dave (Host)

Why don't they just buy it themselves?

02:29 - Deacon Bob (Host)

Well, actually that's what Jenny decided this year.

02:32 - Father Dave (Host)

Yeah, there you go.

02:36 - Deacon Bob (Host)

She said what do you want for Father's Day? And I said, oh, I don't know. I'll, jen forgets, is that? I forget, like my memory is so bad. So she likes it. Sometimes I buy my own stuff because I will literally forget what I ordered myself, and so whenever I open it, I'm like I can't believe this is exactly what I wanted. So I was getting T-shirts because there was a thing of like some fun T-shirts and in, like one of the t-shirts was this, and I thought you know what? I don't know if you get Father's Day presents, so I'm going to get that for you. Here's the other thing, though I ordered these shirts and then I got a shipping notice a few hours later that packages were arriving at my house, and I thought, wow, that was really quick. No, it was stuff I ordered last week that I forgot. There you go, I'm going to have the best Father's.

03:25 - Father Dave (Host)

Day ever.

03:26 - Deacon Bob (Host)

I just want to thank Jenny ahead of time for all the presents that I'm getting on Father's Day.

03:30 - Father Dave (Host)

Yeah, the kids and none of them are going to come on Father's Day.

03:33 - Deacon Bob (Host)

No, they have no idea what's going on.

03:34 - Father Dave (Host)

That's all right.

03:35 - Deacon Bob (Host)

We won't have an episode. We're not going to have an episode next week, so happy Father's Day in advance to all the fathers, and we'll probably say something about it. Sounds good Coming off of that.

03:45 - Father Dave (Host)

Sounds good.

03:45 - Deacon Bob (Host)

I had a great family weekend, though. We went to Sandusky, ohio. Okay, again, it's freezing out, it's 45 degrees and it's June 1st. Tell me about it. I did. I just literally did that. Okay, what were you saying? I'm saying it's cold, I know, but we went to Cedar Point. Have you ever been to Cedar Point? I have been to Cedar Point. Cedar Point is known as one of the great roller coaster parks in the North America region. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And I hadn't been there, you know, I think the last time I was there was in the 90s, when I took teens there on a youth group trip.

04:20 - Father Dave (Host)

Honestly, that's probably I don't know probably early 2000s. But the last time I was there I said to myself you can't do this anymore.

04:30 - Deacon Bob (Host)

It was. First of all I was stunned at how huge it was. So listeners to the podcast know I'm a Disney fan. I've been to Disney quite a bit, know those parks inside and out, so I wasn't ready for the size and the volume and the scope.

04:46 - Father Dave (Host)

yeah.

04:48 - Deacon Bob (Host)

I mean, disney has its own county in Orlando, florida. They spread things out. There's all these things. Cedar Point is like okay, we have five square inches, let's build a ride in this spot. I mean the amount of rides per square foot it's pretty amazing, was pretty amazing.

05:03 - Father Dave (Host)

I mean, you're right, you're not just exaggerating. It is one of the best places for roller coasters, I think, in the world.

05:09 - Deacon Bob (Host)

Right, yeah, people travel all over the place. We only had to drive a few hours away.

05:14 - Father Dave (Host)

What's the?

05:14 - Deacon Bob (Host)

scariest Were there long lines, I bought the-. Well, thankfully I went on a Friday, so school's still in session so that wasn't too bad I, I splurged for, like they have, the fast class thing that you could do, which is three times more expensive than the park ticket, but the park ticket wasn't too expensive, um, and it was cold out, so I think like more casual.

05:34 - Father Dave (Host)

Was it rainy?

05:35 - Deacon Bob (Host)

it wasn't raining thankfully I was watching the the weather. I was worried it was going to be raining, but um, but it was.

05:41 - Father Dave (Host)

It was brisk let's just say that it was it wasisk, many sweatshirts were sold.

05:45 - Deacon Bob (Host)

That's why I'm actually wearing this, because I wasn't thinking I'd need a sweatshirt.

05:48 - Father Dave (Host)

You've asked the scariest ride. So two things. When I was in college, we lived near. I spent a summer on the Jersey Shore.

05:57

We lived close to the Great Adventure. It's a six-likes, six-likes Great Adventure. Yeah, so we for a membership for the summer. So me and my buddies all got and we went all the time. So we got to be friends with people who did the ride. So they let us just stay on. We'd go around and around and around. This is not the scariest one, but it was one of the ones that was really funny. So it was actually. I met your mom and dad. It was when I was a deacon.

06:20

So I met your mom and dad a couple of times during that time in Tampa. Maybe I think twice, okay, but so I went to-.

06:27 - Deacon Bob (Host)

Busch Gardens Tower of Terror is what Is Hollywood Studios, Disney? Yeah.

06:31 - Father Dave (Host)

Okay, that's Disney, okay. So my little brother and his wife were coming and she was all talking smack. We can't wait to go to Tower of Terror, it's so good, we can't wait to go there. Roller coaster, upside down and corkscrew thing is like my stomach.

06:54 - Deacon Bob (Host)

I just can't do. I just can't do this anymore. They've built a number of them that are so freaking tall. Yeah, I didn't do. I was. I was on kid patrol because my grandkids were oh fun. So that was fun and I was glad the yeah, I'm like no no, I can, I can, I can take the slow train ride around again, but it was take the teacup, yeah exactly, but it was really fun. Okay, I'm reading a book right now.

07:16 - Father Dave (Host)

Have you read Mitch Albom? I think we've talked about him in the past.

07:19 - Deacon Bob (Host)

He wrote the Little Liar yeah, Tuesdays with Maury. I read Tuesdays with Maury.

07:23 - Father Dave (Host)

Okay, so he's got a book. It's fairly old, but I just realized did you know you can get audiobooks on Spotify?

07:32 - Deacon Bob (Host)

I was this years old when I found that out so maybe I'm a little behind things.

07:35 - Father Dave (Host)

So he wrote a book called the People you Meet in Heaven the whole storyline is he used to work. The main character of the book worked at a cedar point or something like that, but it's actually Mitch Albom. I really like Mitch Albom he's great that was fun, so that was your weekend. Should I say what I did? You should? A lot of you don't know, but Jack Nicholson, he's great. That was fun, that's fun, so that was your weekend.

07:54 - Deacon Bob (Host)

Should I say what I did? You should you should.

07:55 - Father Dave (Host)

Okay. So a lot of you don't know but Jack Nicholson he has a golf tournament the Memorial.

08:02 - Deacon Bob (Host)

You can't handle the shot. That's right, that was a shout out to one of our emailers, dory from Sunbury Ohio, who's very upset that we mixed up Jack Nicklaus and Jack Nicholson in the last episode. Thank you for catching that.

08:17 - Father Dave (Host)

Dory, but yeah, we were obviously. Someday we'll find Dory yeah we were joking up there, but so I went to the Memorial Golf Tournament, which Jack obviously hosts, not Jack Nicholson.

08:27 - Deacon Bob (Host)

Jack.

08:27 - Father Dave (Host)

Nicholson, and you know it's interesting. There's this debate who's the greatest golfer in the world, or who's the greatest golfer ever? The GOAT of golfing? Yeah, it was one of the individuals and I think he's right. He said that he thinks that Tiger Woods was the greatest golfer. Okay, and Jack Nicklaus and Jack Dory? You're going to get me confused. Jack Nicklaus had the best career.

08:49 - Deacon Bob (Host)

Interesting.

08:50 - Father Dave (Host)

Yeah, but it was so much fun. Actually, you're right, we go there probably 8 o'clock in the morning on Sunday. It was 44 degrees, but oh my goodness, murfield is the most gorgeous golf course.

09:03 - Deacon Bob (Host)

It was a beauty Is that outside of Pittsburgh, dublin, dublin, ohio. Oh, yeah, wrong direction. Yeah, more near Columbus.

09:09 - Father Dave (Host)

Just gorgeous. It's a cute little town. Dublin's really really quaint Brick sidewalks in this old town. Scheffler won it again. He's just a beast, but a golf course beautiful, Good friend.

09:22 - Deacon Bob (Host)

Have you played that golf course? Oh no, I don't know how that works.

09:26 - Father Dave (Host)

Yeah, it's a private course, I would have a hundred strokes before the turn. I think there was probably only about a half a dozen people that were under par. It was a killer course. But it was really really fun Beautiful day?

09:39 - Deacon Bob (Host)

Was it windy? No, it was beautiful and the cold yeah.

09:43 - Father Dave (Host)

In the cold by it was perfect. The sun comes up, it gets to be in the 60s. Yeah, by the husband of the people that we don't, of their podcast we don't talk about is a big golf ball fan Did he go with you yeah. So Jake Khym and I went together.

10:00 - Deacon Bob (Host)

Oh, how fun.

10:00 - Father Dave (Host)

And he, like he, knows golf. In fact, one of the golfers he had met he's from his home course that he played up. Okay, so it was great. It was a great day, it was beautiful, it was wonderful that's awesome, very cool, but no cedar point.

10:13 - Deacon Bob (Host)

But no cedar, it's no cedar point, it's golf. It's probably, if you talk about adrenaline rushes, the extreme difference of going to cedar point the memorial.

10:21 - Father Dave (Host)

Watching the golf game, the memorial is a lot more stressful. Cedar point is relaxed, oh yeah yeah, exactly, it's really.

10:28 - Deacon Bob (Host)

It's just like a lazy river yeah, really that's exactly what it is all right. Well, speaking of more sports and I would consider this a sport Faison Zaki, a 13-year-old from Allen, texas, bested Sarvadinia Kadam in the 20th round to win the 2025 National Spelling Bee on Thursday night. The winning word was I have to hear it. It is Eclaircissement, eclaircissement, that the winning word was. I have to hear it. It is Eclaircissement, eclaircissement, which doesn't sound English to me.

11:01 - Father Dave (Host)

Could you give me the origin?

11:03 - Deacon Bob (Host)

Yes, Could you use?

11:04 - Father Dave (Host)

it in a sentence. Google, could you use it in a sentence?

11:07 - Deacon Bob (Host)

Yes, when the éclaircissement comes, there will be a scene, you will know. It's an enlightening explanation of something.

11:18 - Father Dave (Host)

Did you ever see that?

11:20 - Deacon Bob (Host)

Something that has been hithero-inexplicable oh, I love the word hithero or hitherto.

11:26 - Father Dave (Host)

You've watched that. So they always ask you to define the word. Can you give me a definition? Did you ever see the thing that Babylon B did on what is a Woman? He said could you define it? And they were like uh, no, we can't.

11:39 - Deacon Bob (Host)

It was a cute video. Like he gets it, he was actually the runner-up the previous year, so it's very rare that a runner-up then shows up, and I guess that's only happened five times in the entire history of the spelling bee. One more shot and he got the word right and he collapsed on the floor.

11:54 - Father Dave (Host)

He and.

11:54 - Deacon Bob (Host)

Rory, it was this very, yes, very, very intense thing, and of course he'd been trying to do it all his life.

12:01 - Father Dave (Host)

Yeah, exactly as well, since he was one years old, Since he was eight.

12:03 - Deacon Bob (Host)

What can you think of a moment Was there, like a high stress, like you got a win moment, like athletically or anything?

12:11 - Father Dave (Host)

The eighth grade or eighth grade, fifth grade, catechism B.

12:16 - Deacon Bob (Host)

Ooh.

12:17 - Father Dave (Host)

Standing up in front of everybody answering these little questions about the catechism in the church. Oh meow, I nailed it. Nice, I don't know. You asked me that question. I was thinking about it. I mean, you know there's a particular baseball game. You need to get a hit, Did you? I bunted, I did, but we still got the next person out. They got the next person out, so we didn't score. So you?

12:43 - Deacon Bob (Host)

did your job, or at least you kind of passed it on to somebody else. Yeah.

12:48 - Father Dave (Host)

But no again, maybe I have to think about it. There was this huge moment.

12:54 - Deacon Bob (Host)

This is a great story.

12:55 - Father Dave (Host)

Thanks for sharing that, Dave.

12:58 - Deacon Bob (Host)

I'm glad we prepped the show. I can think of some auditions. Actually, the first thing I thought of when I was in high school in Illinois Illinois you can go state in theater.

13:12 - Father Dave (Host)

It's not everything you can do. I'm always amazed at how similar our lives are.

13:14 - Deacon Bob (Host)

Yeah, exactly and I actually went three years state in theater, but the auditions were really stressful because there's only a few parts and everybody in the state and actually who you're in front of during that time are all these other teen actors who are all competing for the same role. They're all just good judges, yeah, so it's not even like people are positive, it's just everyone kind of wants you to screw up because they want that role.

13:41 - Father Dave (Host)

That's lovely.

13:42 - Deacon Bob (Host)

But the show itself wasn't too stressful. I enjoy the shows. Other fun sports things going on. There's not a lot in the NFL, but there's some fun chatter. One of my favorite things that happened this week is Terry Bradshaw, who was the former quarterback of the Pittsburgh Steelers, was asked what he thinks about Aaron Rodgers joining the Steelers. Here's the quote. That is just to me, a joke. What are you going to do? Bring him in for one year? Are you kidding me? That guy needs to stay in California, go somewhere and chew on, bark and whisper to the gods out there. That's a beautiful line. That is a beautiful line that is a beautiful line.

14:15 - Father Dave (Host)

I wish he would share what he's really thinking. I know. Yeah, I wish he'd be unfiltered. He's holding back.

14:20 - Deacon Bob (Host)

Honestly, I just knowing Pittsburghers. I don't know anybody in Pittsburgh who wants this to happen.

14:26 - Father Dave (Host)

No no.

14:28 - Deacon Bob (Host)

No.

14:29 - Father Dave (Host)

No in Pittsburgh. No, you're probably right. Yeah, we're going to a Pittsburgh Pirate game tomorrow. It's an alumni event. It's going to be really fun. We're going to have about 70 people. That is going to be my question to the local people.

14:40 - Deacon Bob (Host)

Yeah, ask the locals Next time we come back I'll be able to give you an update. Ask the Yinzers what they think of it. Speaking of the NFL, Well, if you're in Pittsburgh, we'll see you at It'll already have happened probably.

14:51 - Father Dave (Host)

Right, let's hope so, or the world is you know. The Lord has returned.

14:55 - Deacon Bob (Host)

Yeah, that's also not a bad idea, especially before the end of this baseball season. The Colorado Rockies would be happy about that. Horrible. What are they? 9 and 30? Horrible. Oh, they're a lot worse than that, are they? Yeah, speaking of NFL, buffalo Bills quarterback Josh Allen got married to Haley Seinfeld Perfect Steinfeld. Sorry about that.

15:15 - Father Dave (Host)

Perfect. No relation to Jerry Seinfeld.

15:17 - Deacon Bob (Host)

Perfect. She was the little girl in True Grit, which was a great movie, and she was also in Pitch Perfect. My daughters really like that. Maybe just worth rounding things out the huge soccer game this weekend, the Champions League final was won by Paris Saint-Germain, and I think Paris is still burning even to this moment. That's right Because of it. Paris Saint-Germain used to have huge headliners like Messi and Neymar, and they finally just decided we're going to build a regular old team and they won it.

15:47

Yeah, they won it, which was really, really fun. Nhl finals it's the Oilers versus the Florida Panthers, and the NBA finals looks like it's the Thunder versus the Pacers, and everybody's gone to bed and not a lot of people care about those teams.

16:02 - Father Dave (Host)

That's very true.

16:03 - Deacon Bob (Host)

But it's some good basketball and that's sports. Our new Pope, leo XIV hey, we mentioned the Pope again.

16:11 - Father Dave (Host)

5% bump, let's go. If we do it five times, do we get 25%. Pope, pope, pope, pope, pope.

16:16 - Deacon Bob (Host)

There you go Is the first ever Augustinian Pope. So who exactly was St Augustine Augustine, and why is his autobiography Confessions still a classic today, and what can he teach us about the spiritual life? I hope there's answers to these questions. Well, there are. Franciscan theology professor Dr Shane Owens explores these questions and more in his new book Return to the Heart the Biblical Spirituality of St Augustine's Confessions. Shane brings St Augustine's wisdom to life for a new generation, and you can purchase Return to the Heart wherever books are sold. Shane also sat down with our own Father Dave, to talk about St Augustine on a recent episode of Franciscan University Presents, and you can watch the Presents episodes at faithandreasoncom. That's faithandreasoncom. That sounds better, doesn't it? Dot com, faithandreasoncom? What are you doing?

17:13 - Father Dave (Host)

What are you doing?

17:15 - Deacon Bob (Host)

Yeah, shane's a good friend. He's a newer faculty member. How long has he been around? A couple years now. He wrote this book about St Augustine and it's very timely because the Pope is Augustinian, he is, he is, and I actually, I would say that I think until the Pope, you know right, I, I didn't know there were Augustinians.

17:37 - Father Dave (Host)

Okay.

17:39 - Deacon Bob (Host)

I mean I know of like Franciscans and Dominicans and Jesuits and things like that and I didn't realize there were. I knew that at the time there was, like Augustinians At the time. So what's the thing? Like what would an Augustinian Augustinians?

17:51 - Father Dave (Host)

didn't actually start until, I think, the 13th century.

17:53 - Deacon Bob (Host)

So St Augustine didn't start them?

17:55 - Father Dave (Host)

No, he did not start them, they just, and they just kind of copped the name, and they did because he lived a type of life. It's my understanding that St Augustine never lived alone, that he saw community as essential to the spiritual life and to the Christian life. So I think it's actually listen to the podcast that we do, because we talk quite a bit about this. But I think it's the 14th century. It could have been the 13th. There are a lot of individual communities of hermits and they basically bring those people together under the rule of St Augustine and they make the Augustinians. But Villanova is a university that's run by the Augustinians.

18:28 - Deacon Bob (Host)

Interesting. Okay, I didn't know it was a Catholic school actually.

18:32 - Father Dave (Host)

Yep by Villanova Right. So when I was in seminary, I had probably two Augustinian priests who were my professors in seminary, Oddly enough, strangely enough, interestingly enough, one of them was Father Mike Scanlon.

18:46 - Deacon Bob (Host)

Really.

18:46 - Father Dave (Host)

Yeah, so he spelled his name A-N and one was O-N. So, he was Scanlon, yeah, so it was just funny.

18:54 - Deacon Bob (Host)

Can you use that in a?

18:55 - Father Dave (Host)

sentence. Everybody was talking about Mike Scanlon. Mike's like. This is so weird because obviously you're our father, mike. But yeah, yeah, good group of friars, yeah, yeah.

19:06 - Deacon Bob (Host)

So what would their charism be?

19:08 - Father Dave (Host)

Community service. They're really kind of. It's interesting, shane says they're kind of the handyman of everything. Right, okay, they were really the popes. We need this done. So let's ask the Augustinians, because everyone else had this very specific Franciscans were this, dominicans were this. So the Augustinians it's like well, let's have the Augustinians do that. So, there really is this sense of just service to the church and what is the need of the church? So it's really their history. Community is key, prayer is key and service.

19:38 - Deacon Bob (Host)

Oh, that's beautiful, that's great. Duty is key, prayer is key and service oh that's beautiful, Yep.

19:40 - Father Dave (Host)

That's great. It can't be a very big order. Actually, I wrote these things down. I think there was that's a good question. They're in 47 countries because the Holy Father was the superior general. He went to Peru, he was in Peru, he had just finished his doctorate, and then he gets called to be the provincial of his community. So he's provincial, I think, for 12 years, and then he was called to be the general overseeing all of them. Okay, which is great, because it gives the Holy Father a real worldview of the entire globe. Yeah, again, 47 countries. And I want to. I don't know, I don't remember Not that many. I want to say 4,000 or 5,000, but I don't recall exactly how many.

20:25 - Deacon Bob (Host)

Yeah, yeah, okay, well, that's, that's awesome. So listen, yeah, the the university presents is a good show, and the podcast that shane and I do is great too. That's an in-person or yeah, so that's great. Yeah, it's uh. Shane does wonderful stuff and if you've never read augustine's confessions, it's a beautiful book it is, and this is a really beautiful introduction into it.

20:36 - Father Dave (Host)

Some people that's confessions can be a little bit intimidating.

20:39 - Deacon Bob (Host)

Depending on the translation, I'm sure yeah, right.

20:41 - Father Dave (Host)

And he does a really good job. I do one of the recommendations for the book and I say what he does is he gives you a glimpse into the heart of Augustine, not just the intellect, but the heart of Augustine.

20:51 - Deacon Bob (Host)

So yeah, it was great, that's fantastic. So, check that out, faithandreasoncom. So upcoming this weekend is Pentecost. It is, which is exciting. It's the end of our Easter season.

21:05 - Father Dave (Host)

Well, there's so much going on this weekend, so this weekend is the first conference of the season for us.

21:12 - Deacon Bob (Host)

Yes, our women's conference, yes, spirit and the Bride, with Alan.

21:15 - Father Dave (Host)

Shrek yeah, exactly no. So obviously it's with Heather Khym and her crew.

21:19 - Deacon Bob (Host)

Yeah, time permitting yeah.

21:22 - Father Dave (Host)

It's a women's conference, so if people, you could still come if you wanted to. It's going to be a beautiful, wonderful weekend.

21:27 - Deacon Bob (Host)

Yeah, if you're a woman, you can come.

21:29 - Father Dave (Host)

Yeah, or you can be around it all for it.

21:30 - Deacon Bob (Host)

I'm actually flying out to Arizona to speak at the Catholic Youth Ministry Conference.

21:40 - Father Dave (Host)

Oh, cool Street Conference Powered by LifeTeen. That's great, father Tim Hepburn's coming to town this weekend.

21:42 - Deacon Bob (Host)

Oh nice for the Women's Conference.

21:44 - Father Dave (Host)

Tim and I and you have been friends for a long long time.

21:47 - Deacon Bob (Host)

Are you around for this weekend?

21:48 - Father Dave (Host)

I'm not. I'm actually going to Poland on.

21:50 - Deacon Bob (Host)

Friday.

21:51 - Father Dave (Host)

So therefore, we will not have a podcast this week, Right?

21:54 - Deacon Bob (Host)

That's why I'll be in Arizona. You'll be in Poland.

21:56 - Father Dave (Host)

That's just a bit too extreme of a time difference yeah, so we're taking a group noelle marrying and I are taking group to poland. We'll start up in warsaw. We'll go to the places significant to colby. I mean it's really. Poland is an amazing thing. You have colby, faustina and john paul three of the you know most significant saints of the last century all around the same time. So we'll take a group of about 70 people visit those holy sites.

22:19 - Deacon Bob (Host)

So I'm looking forward to it and is this run by Franciscan? Okay, very nice, the Pilgrimages Very cool, so that'll be great Is there like a website we should mention for that Franciscan.

22:27 - Father Dave (Host)

Pilgrimages If you Google Franciscan University Pilgrimages, there's a lot of really great pilgrimages you might enjoy.

22:34 - Deacon Bob (Host)

If you enjoy this, why don't we ever do a pilgrimage?

22:36 - Father Dave (Host)

We should go to Cedar Point.

22:37 - Deacon Bob (Host)

People are asking us all the time when can there be a they that Hope podcast there?

22:43 - Father Dave (Host)

is a podcast we should do that I don't know.

22:46 - Deacon Bob (Host)

We'll figure that out, we'll do that. Maybe we'll do like a virtual one where you and I will go on a pilgrimage and we'll just keep talking, we'll record everything and people can feel like the sound effects.

22:59 - Father Dave (Host)

That'll be wonderful, wonderful. So that's going on. The conference is going on, which is great because it begins the season of conferences.

23:05 - Deacon Bob (Host)

Those have been such a blessing on so many people's life, oh my goodness and we used to do I don't remember when we stopped doing women's conferences, but to have that again, we had women's and men's conferences for a while and we, I think what occurred I remember correctly because I was doing music for some of those various conferences is they kind of they blew up in a good way. You know, like Franciscan was one of the first places to offer men's conferences and women's conferences at least Catholic ones.

23:31

You know, there were some very prominent Protestant ones in the 80s and so on, and Franciscan was one of the first places to offer those. But then other organizations and groups started doing it and at one point Franciscan said we don't really need to do this because it's so popularized in other places. But I think with the Women's Conference and I'd say that's probably still true with the men's conferences, there's a lot of really, really big men's conferences but not as many strong Catholic women's conferences, and so I'm excited for Heather to do that.

24:02 - Father Dave (Host)

I think it's going to be great for our campus. It'll be really, really wonderful. It really is not too late to show up. I mean, we've got people if you need my wife and her friends are going, it's really nice to have something local that they can just come to.

24:15

I'm looking forward to being here. I'm looking forward to being here. I'm really looking forward. I love Poland, so I'm really looking forward to that, but I'm really disappointed that I'm going to miss this weekend. Yeah, you know it's going to be, and to be able to have it on Pentecost weekend is just going to be really, really good, yeah, that's awesome. I'm sure we talked about this last year and I'll probably talk about it every year for the rest of my life, Please do was the first mass, public mass we had after COVID.

24:38

Yeah, and we had it on the hill outside, whereas now we have a massive new building. We had a big barbecue afterwards and then we had a Eucharistic festival of praise, and it was like so many people still to this day said.

24:53 - Deacon Bob (Host)

Yeah, it was such a gift. It was one of the first times everybody could get together. Could get together again Right, celebrated mass outside, had mass together it everybody could get together, could get together again.

25:01 - Father Dave (Host)

Right, it was the first Celebrated mass outside.

25:01 - Deacon Bob (Host)

Had mass together. It was just really really beautiful. Yeah, that was awesome. Do you have plans Other than flying to Arizona?

25:05 - Father Dave (Host)

Yeah, we'll. So that leaves, that starts when then it starts on Sunday night, okay, okay, tell those people I said hello.

25:23 - Deacon Bob (Host)

I will. I'll give a shout out to everybody and a shout out to all of you listeners. We'll miss you next week. We'll be praying for you. Thanks for all your emails. By the way, we do read them, tom. I appreciate that you think I need to try Thai food. I just never, ever, ever will. But also, many of you have been spending prayer requests and we have been praying for you guys. We're glad to be a part of your journey and we're glad you're blessed by the podcast. We're blessed doing it.

25:46 - Father Dave (Host)

Yeah, it is really blessing and I'm always humbled with what some of the people share. One of the emails you shared, can we assume if—let's just say, if you email us, let us know if you don't actually want us to mention it and you just want us to pray for it?

26:03 - Deacon Bob (Host)

Because sometimes people yeah, I'm going to say anytime they say, pray for us, I don't mention it Okay. So I always kind of think that's like a little private thing, privacy, privacy, that's cool, but it is.

26:12 - Father Dave (Host)

It's just a great blessing and we really do Like the friars. We pray every morning. We pray for our benefactors and we pray for the people that invite us to pray for us. So you're a part of that, but it's going to be a blessed weekend. It'll be wonderful to be in Poland for Pentecost, and then the following week is Father's Day.

26:28 - Deacon Bob (Host)

That's right.

26:29 - Father Dave (Host)

Yes, and the anniversary of your father's passing was just a few days ago.

26:32 - Deacon Bob (Host)

Yeah, yeah, it was. I think it was his seventh. I think it was the seventh Isn't that crazy, yeah, 2018. When did your father pass away? It was 2020, right 2021. Okay, 21.

26:43 - Father Dave (Host)

Was it 18? I was thinking I was back at the university. So I wasn't back here yet. No, I think it was right before that, but we were friends.

26:50 - Deacon Bob (Host)

It was right before. Yeah, yeah.

26:54 - Father Dave (Host)

That's fair. That's fair. But when I was traveling like that, we didn't see each other a lot. No, but when we did.

27:00 - Deacon Bob (Host)

it was great, I do.

27:01 - Father Dave (Host)

I love this.

27:02 - Deacon Bob (Host)

We'd really have it like we'd see a movie or a Penguins game or something like that. I love.

27:05 - Father Dave (Host)

The story is that we were friends enough that this was maybe when I was in Washington.

27:10 - Deacon Bob (Host)

This was when you were on.

27:11 - Father Dave (Host)

We were friends we were close enough and I said, really quick, I feel bad, he texts me. Yeah, he texts, I couldn't stop buying you go. Well, since you mentioned it, I was in Washington two weeks ago.

27:25 - Deacon Bob (Host)

It was so sweet that you were in town, and then you felt guilty about not mentioning that you were in town, and then I'd been in DC like probably three or four times and I didn't even think about picking up the phone.

27:33 - Father Dave (Host)

Perfect, perfect perfect.

27:35 - Deacon Bob (Host)

It's just a good relationship. Amen Well let us close in prayer.

27:39 - Father Dave (Host)

Heavenly Father, we thank you for your gift of the Holy Spirit that animates our life, that breathes life into us. The Holy Spirit brings hope. I love the scripture. The Holy Spirit is poured into our hearts, Lord. We just pray for that grace, that your Holy Spirit would be poured into our hearts. We pray particularly for those who are suffering, those who are distant from you, Lord, that they know your peace and your presence. We make this prayer, Jesus, in your name, Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

28:04 - Deacon Bob (Host)

Amen.

28:06 - Father Dave (Host)

Thank you.

28:06 - Deacon Bob (Host)

Father Dave and thank you everybody. Have a great couple of weeks. We look forward to coming back and talking about awesome experiences in Poland and Father's Day and summer conferences taking off.

28:22 - Father Dave (Host)

You can send us an email hopeatfranciscanedu.

28:23 - Deacon Bob (Host)

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