What happens when a World Series rematch decades in the making sets the sports world buzzing—and a lesser-known Catholic emperor’s story steals the spotlight?
In this episode, Father Dave Pivonka and Deacon Bob Rice dive into the historic Yankees vs. Dodgers matchup, share strong opinions on football season, and celebrate the feast of St. John Paul II, while introducing listeners to the inspiring life of Blessed Karl of Austria. They also tackle the state of college athletics, Deacon Bob’s new book on relational youth ministry, and a surprising Donald Trump drive-thru appearance at McDonald’s.
Along the way, Arthur Brooks’ insights on “subversive Catholicism” spark a conversation on belonging, dialogue, and evangelization in a divided world. And yes, there are tangents, including WNBA finals, Shohei Ohtani’s dog, and even a moon-cheese joke. Because it wouldn’t be They That Hope without them.
Highlighted Sections
(00:00) World Series Set: Yankees vs. Dodgers
The guys kick off with MLB history, past matchups, and which team they’re (reluctantly) rooting for. Along the way, they reminisce about famous baseball moments and predict how many games it’ll take to crown a champion.
(04:12) Football Frenzy: NFL, College, and Transfer Portal Chaos
From the Lions’ hot start to Bo Nix’s rookie success in Denver, the NFL updates come fast. College football’s transfer portal and NIL deals spark debate, including a viral coach resignation over the state of the game.
(13:21) Youth Ministry with Heart: Deacon Bob’s New Book
Deacon Bob introduces Sharing the Gospel with Our Lives, explaining why relationships—not just programs—are the key to effective ministry. He shares the book’s origin, the audience it’s for, and why he hopes it will inspire volunteers, parents, and youth leaders alike.
(18:12) Drive-Thru Politics and a VP Rally Gaffe
A lighthearted take on Donald Trump working at a McDonald’s drive-thru and Vice President Harris’ rally misstep, plus a shoutout to Bob’s recent retreat in Austin, Texas.
(20:18) Arthur Brooks on Belonging and Evangelization
Father Dave recaps Brooks’ talk on engaging with those we disagree with—without contempt. The guys reflect on the role of relationship in ministry, especially with young people influenced by media and culture.
(27:26) Feast of St. John Paul II & Blessed Karl of Austria
Stories and legacies of two saints: John Paul II’s magnetic witness and Karl of Austria’s deep commitment to peace. Father Dave shares personal encounters with Karl’s son Otto and the connection to Franciscan’s Austria campus.
(34:06) Saints for All People
A nod to John Paul II’s prolific canonizations and his reminder that holiness is for everyone—not just the “superstars.”
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